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Questions How to configure Customerwise- Itemwise Commission

 
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 Ishan Desai
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November 13, 2018 5:21 am
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Hi All,

Currently, In the system we can configure customerwise commission%.

Is it possible to configure itemwise-customerwise commission?

For Exmaple:

I have one customer C1  and there are two items (Item 1 and Item2 ).

For Item1--> Customer C1 -- commission is 5%

For Item 2--> Customer C1-- commission is 3%

Please guide me how can I configure this setting?

Thanks,

Ishan

 


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Tim Rodman
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 Tim Rodman
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November 14, 2018 5:56 pm
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Not that I can think of out-of-the-box, but what about this idea?

Let's say the salesperson's name is Susan. What about creating two Salesperson records (just add them together when calculating commissions later):

1. SUSAN05 - Set to 5%

2. SUSAN 03 - Set to 3%

Then create a Custom Field on the Stock Items (IN202500) screen for Default Salesperson.

Finally, modify the Sales Orders (SO301000) screen to default the Default Salesperson value from the Stock Items (IN202500) screen into the DOCUMENT DETAILS -> Salesperson ID field on the Sales Orders (SO301000) screen when an Item is chosen.


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Shawn P Slavin
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November 15, 2018 4:22 pm
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Tim, if you're going to go to the trouble of adding a custom field, just add a commission rate attribute to each item in inventory.  Maybe just populate it if you want the commission rate to override the standard commission. You could then incorporate the attribute into a custom report or GI to calculate commissions outside the internal Acumatica process.

Historically, I have rarely found a packaged systems commission system capable of managing the rules employed by my customers. Invariably they have some unique level of complexity in their process that makes the calculation too convoluted. We always try to coach the customer to establish commission rules which are easy to understand and can be calculated by the salesperson on the back of a napkin. If it doesn't fit this model, the commission plan fails its primary purpose; to motivate salespeople to higher results. If salespeople can't quickly and easily determine the results of their efforts, the motivational aspect of a commission system is lost.


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Tim Rodman
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November 20, 2018 9:45 pm
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Good idea, an attribute would be easier. Would still need to modify the Sales Order screen though to do something with it right?


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Shawn P Slavin
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November 20, 2018 10:19 pm
Reply toTim RodmanTim Rodman

Yep. However, we typically do the calculations in a report or GI.


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Tim Rodman

Would there be anyways that we could base commissions on  Customer and then Item Class we would like to sell to

Customer ABC

Which can buy from

Item Class A at 3%  commission paid

Item Class B at 5%  commission paid


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Tim Rodman
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February 7, 2019 10:00 pm
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I think the challenge would be the same. The problem is that the Salespersons (AR205000) screen is only set to define commission percentages at the Customer level, not the Item or Item Class level:

 

The Stock Items (IN202500) screen has a checkbox called Subject to Commission for determining whether or not an Item qualifies for commission, but it doesn't allow you to override the percentage.

 

That's why I like Shawn's idea to add an Attribute to the Item which would store the commission rate override. Then you calculate commissions in a report. You could even calculate them in Excel using an OData connection to a Generic Inquiry.


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Paul
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March 22, 2020 2:56 pm
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Tim,

 Has anything change with this functionality in Acumatica? I have a project to give commissions to existing accounts who sell our products, sort of like a reseller program.

For example I would set a custom field on the account specifying that this is a reseller. This account would then link to a specific salesperson created for the account.

This would work perfectly except it would be nice if Acumatica had a commision percentage on the item and item class. 

 

I know I could add attributes to these objects; however I would love to use the native commission calculations.

I guess if not I'm stuck with using a GI and calculate the commission outside of the system.

 

--Paul


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March 24, 2020 4:42 pm
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I think I've figure out Acumatica's commission system. There are commission columns on the sales order line that you can actually insert commission percentages and salesperson id which gets propagated to ARTran and calculated programatically by Acumatica. 

I have to do some more testing but this looks promising.

 

--Paul


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Tim Rodman
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Did it work out for you Paul?

Adding an additional note here on this.

The Default Salesperson field on the COMMISSIONS tab of the Sales Orders (SO301000) screen comes from the SALESPERSONS tab on the Customers (AR303000) screen.

If you change the Default Salesperson, then any new lines that you add to the Sales Order will pickup that Salesperson in the Salesperson ID field on the DOCUMENT DETAILS tab of the Sales Orders (SO301000) screen.

So if you're using an API or an Import Scenario and you want to override the Salesperson, just make sure you set Default Salesperson before adding any lines to the Sales Order.


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Reply toTim RodmanTim Rodman

@timrodman 

I actually abandoned using Acumatica's native commission system and created my own columns and calculations. There were too many customized business rules to try to work with the existing setup.

In summary, I ended up creating new commission tabs on the Sales Order and Invoice screens that mimic Acumatic's. I also implemented a processing screen that pulled in all commission payments (paid and unpaid) where accounting could view and link to the payment screen to finish up the commission payments.

 

--Paul


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Tim Rodman

@pmccormack Not a bad move. Sometimes it's easier to "build up" rather than "tear down" to the desired functionality.


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