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Hi All,

I'm putting together a schema diagram in Access to help me understand all of the relationships as I dig into Acumatica and making GIs and reports.

Access is the first thing that came to mind. Is there a better tool to diagram table schema?

Would anyone else like to collaborate? 

-Matt

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Tim Rodman
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Hey Matt,

Great idea. This is definitely a hot topic and currently the most popularly requested item on the Acumatica Feedback website:

https://feedback.acumatica.com/ideas/ACU-I-639

 

But the problem is not what tool to use. The problem is that creating a schema would be an "outside" diagram that would have to be manually maintained with every new build of Acumatica. This isn't a problem with legacy ERP software like Sage because the product barely changes over the years. But, with Acumatica, it's a problem because the product continues to evolve at a steady pace.

I have had multiple conversations with Acumatica engineers about this. And they have tried to do it. I've seen evidence of a lot of time spent on it. One solution looked really cool, but it took hours and hours to generate every time which was too expensive from a resource standpoint. But they have a lot of smart people there. Just keep adding those votes to the feedback item listed above and I think they'll eventually find a way to auto generate the schema with each new build.

In the meantime, I'd love to see what you come up with. It's just not something that I personally want to invest a lot of time in at the moment.


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Added my vote to that idea. I've been doing this the hard way when building new GIs. I use existing reports and GIs to determine the relationships for my new GIs.


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Personally, I look at the Primary Key fields on the Tables in the Database to know what fields to use in the joins. That way I know that I won't get duplicate records.


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If you didn't have access to the database what would you do?


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Tim Rodman
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You would need access to the database, but anyone can download and install Acumatica.

First, you would install SQL Server Express Edition (free).

Second, you would install a version of Acumatica (free, only limited to 2 concurrent users):
http://builds.acumatica.com

Then you can browse the database using SQL Server Express Edition.


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@matthew-hoss. 

Were you able to get anywhere with this?  

I just got thrown into acumatica and feel a little lost.  If you are willing to share what you were able to put together I would be very appreciative.  I am also very willing to work on this more with you if there is still an interest.  

Thanks,

 

Jon


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Dominic Albrecht
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@jonathan-schultz

 

Have you managed to find anything that was helpful to you ?

I am in the same situation as you and am desperate for some help


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I just noticed this new thing in Acumatica 2019 R2!

It's still missing Primary Keys, but it's a start.

You don't actually need a 2019 R2 environment because the help is available outside of Acumatica:

https://help-2019r2.acumatica.com


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Here's another schema browser utility that you might want to checkout:

https://www.augforums.com/forums/everything-else/acumatica-schema-browser-from-juriy


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Tim Rodman
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I still find myself using a local copy of Microsoft SQL Management Studio to check for primary keys on the database tables. Technically, this isn't the same thing as finding primary keys for a Data Access Class, but it works for me.

 

sp_pkeys is a quick way to find the keys for a table, like this:

 

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